S-1 will be significantly softer to the touch vs VP. Go with Vega pro if you are still perfecting your technique, pretty darn easy to use bh rubber. TCORE F720 Test | Nittaku Fastarc G1 & Xiom Vega Euro | Vilga | Training with Coach Yudi - YouTube Testing set up baru buat Vilga. Players who value control and precision looping to vary spin and placement with a medium speed level. In that respect, I've found Vega X better. Flicks – 7.5/10: Pretty average if im honest, Vega pro does grip the ball well but there is not much penetration or speed in flicks and you have to be sure to engage a little bit of sponge as the topsheet isnt that elastic. The power comes from the ground, the feeling and the spin come from the sticky topsheet. You need to be aggressive in every shot, hit, counter hit on the bounce close to mid-distance. Red 1.8 (Out of Stock) A power topsheet with a built-in tension power sponge produces the ideal combination of ball speed and ball arc – an outstanding powerful spin ball. Xiom Vega Pro was introduced at the end of 2009, breaking into the new decade and setting a precedence of Xiom’s ability to produce quality rubber. -Speed is about the same, maybe G-1 just a slight faster Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Avalox P700 |Victas VO-102 1.8| Donic Bluefire M3 2.0. But it’s very fast and direct (the main characteristic of a good forehand rubber). When serving with Battle 2, it is simple to achieve a high ball spin. 5. blocking is also good like xiom rubbers .. no issue in this aspect They’re pretty similar rubbers being that both are tensor rubbers. The sponge hardness is 47.5deg and I gotta say the overall hardness of the rubber feels about that. Sanwei rubbers have a large diameter and thick bottom pimple structure. Compared to Tibhar MXP (2.1 mm), Nittaku G1 (2.1 mm) has similar spin, but much less speed. Fast looping – 9.0/10: This is what Vega Pro is designed for, its great at mid distance fast looping, engage the sponge and this rubber is just a dream to loop with, so smooth, easy and stable, great feeling. So it’s a fast rubber to hit close to the table. due to high throw of rubber, or ball rushing to the net due to med-low throw...... the med-hard sponge also ensure adequate power from all usual playing distances) He told me he change rubber every 2 to 3 months. Nittaku FastArc-G1 Jul 2018 275 87 488. I've been using RX on my Jpen for quite a while and have been thinking about trying G-1. Hope you will test it! On my mj szlc, G-1 2.0 on both sides means 190gr balanced and controlled. I recommend you choose the Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard, or the Tenergy 25. MX-P50 has a hard but very fine sponge. Really enjoy it. This is an excellent choice for the highly skilled player who demands a professional combination of spin, speed, power, and long trajectory. The only con is that when new, it is quite hard and boosting does not really resolve this. If i have a chance again i will talk to him and ask him if he still have those used or sell me new one. But I don't care about weight, I might put C1 or G1 on my BH. Can anyone compare G-1 to Rakza X? Is the ITTF World Table Tennis Ranking Accurate? I wonder how much weight is reduced from the 2.0mm and how well it plays. How times have changed. But still, it is a very good rubber among rubbers I have played until now. It’s made in Germany. After hitting the first couple of FH drives, it was pretty evident that the G-1 feels significantly firmer in game play than the P-1. Hey coach, I was wondering if i bought a DHS TG3 skyline 3 and boost it, would it be too much to buy a 2.2mm sponge? A power topsheet with a built-in tension power sponge produces the ideal combination of ball speed and ball arc -- an outstanding powerful spin ball. There is a general consensus in the table tennis community that national team rubbers are not commercially available and are basically unicorns. Nittaku Fastarc G-1 1. Tibhar Evolution MX-P Some of these rubbers have been around for almost 10 years (e.g. However, I’m at an impasse. Even from Nittaku's own website (in japanese which i can only use translate) they hint at the fact that is a BH rubber. Black 1.8 (Out of Stock) without the need of active forward wrist movement - where with other rubbers like Tenergy, MX-P, the ball would fly off the table unless it is an active block (i.e. Both are medium-hard but I found Vega was heavier than G1. For me, 2 mm Vega Japan lacks power and much different than Vega Japan with maximal thickness. Kreisklassenschupfer Please tell us if you see a lower price. control is great u can block, push and touch shots. Latihan di PTM Pantisoeka (Colomadu, Karanganyar) tanggal 29 September 2020Set up :Zumar :Victas Koki NiwaBlack: Nittaku Fastarc G1Red: Nittaku Fastarc C1Bim. Solid spin. So you need to “break-in” the sponge. Born in Vietnam in 1983, Ph.D. in Université Pierre Marie Curie. G1 forces you to play perfect and doesn't help when you are in bad position. For most Chinese rubbers, the black one is the tackier one and the red is the harder one. It’s not an easy question! Calibra LT Plus has an extra hard sponge (50 ESN degree hardness which is equivalent to 38 DHS Chinese hardness) that ensures tremendous power when hitting. The main problem of Stiga Calibra LT+ is the topsheet durability. Choose Fastarc G-1 for more spin with great power, and choose Fastarc S-1 for more speed with great spin. Not sure if you meant something other than this in context of your post, but my observations negate the above 'equation' when taken in isolation. You should choose a harder sponge for your forehand rubbers: Always choose a denser sponge (blue sponge is better than an orange sponge). The hardest and fastest of all the Fastarcs. Need to use a booster for the best performance. Stiga Mantra H has a hard sponge – 50 degrees ESN hardness, which is equivalent to 38 degrees Chinese hardness. For most of the players, Tenergy 05 Hard fit very well on the forehand side. The Topsheet on the Vega pro is what I would class as an old school topsheet, its quite thick, not overly elastic and doesnt have the modern grainy surface of newer rubbers. Not for beginners. Skyline 3 rubber made with a new technique has quicker attacking power with loop drive. The topsheet is very durable and linear. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Just not me. Great for offensive play. Very good for block over the table and loop attack at a middle distance like penholder players. This is where Xiom Vega Pro makes a lot more sense compared to something like Tenergy 05. Thanks to the Dynamic Friction technology that has evolved to better synchronize with the harder sponge, you will be able to develop an extremely powerful game for your forehand attack. (it has carbon podwer in it, which causes it to have better energy efficiency). Cut should be about 30% less. But there is a big problem here? That’s the reason why Butterfly released the new Tenergy 05 Hard rubber (check price 1/ check price 2/ read review). S-1 is 45 degree sponge (softer than vega pro) and also it's topsheet pimple structure is in a way to feel softer too. Overall this is a favorite rubber for the powerful forehand attack player. Edit: I use pendulum serve. And most of these rubbers are imported to dealers/online shops around the world. When hitting the ball, the Battle 2 provincial rubber with a blue sponge has a better consistency, making it easier for the player to hit with topspin repeatedly. Skyline TG (Technology Generation) 3 continual and dense attack. The national version of the rubber but you couldn’t find it anywhere despite living in China. Could anyone give me some advice? The G-1 feels similar to the touch as Xiom’s Omega V Asia but is two grams lighter at 49 grams when cut to my 157 x 150 mm test blade. The orange sponge national rubber is sold by the Official store of DHS on Amazon. Due to the very hard sponge, your forehand topspin is loaded with full power. Vega pro is a Medium/Hard rubber with a 47.5deg sponge with small pores and a low level of tuning (thumbs up from me). They are VERY LIMITED. What is the best table tennis rubber for your forehand? i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though. -G-1 is far better for blocking and flat hits When it does, hardness becomes medium from hard. Vega pro for me much better, high throw compared to medium low of g1, with g1 you have to compress sponge to make ball not jump high during block, with vega pro not. Don’t use it with stiff blades. In this list, there are some tacky hard Chinese rubbers that the professional players love using. Approximate weight (cut) of each rubber ? In the UK you can pick this rubber up for as little at £30.00. Dibantu oleh Coach Yudi dalam latihan persiapan Pra PON tenis meja 2019 di Kalimantan Timur.#tcoref720#nittakufastarcg1#xiomvegaeuro#tabletennis#tenismeja#pingpong#gorsemenpadang#prapon2019#kalimantantimur#atlitsumbarSekian video review bagi yang belum tau Kayu Tcore F720 dari Korea. Both are excellent Chinese rubbers available for under $25usd. The topsheet is rather tacky which helps to topspin the ball easily. Many fake hurricane 3 rubbers are really slow. Even from Nittaku's own website (in japanese which i can only use translate) they hint at the fact that is a BH rubber. I agree to this review or description. I agree mostly with Gozo, with a few nuances. Second, you are using Chinese rubbers in the wrong way. To me Xiom Vega Pro just felt like a higher quality product that was the complete package, I cant really say it generated more spin or speed but it just felt better to me. It's very tenergy-like even with less spin & speed. Also my favorite rubber. A Tenergy 05 thats slower, less spin, more linear, much more controlled but still plays like Tenergy 05. Which make this indeed still a great rubber. DHS Hurricane 3 National (blue sponge), 3- Deep topspin (speed first, and spin after), Backhand flick technique in table tennis with Chinese coach, How to increase the power of your forehand topspin, Chinese tacky rubber if you have a full and powerful, 【ターゲットブルー Sanwei】粘着で最速！究極の粘着ラバーがついに・・・【卓球知恵袋】 (https://youtu.be/MPnSYxWk2Rg), CALIBRA – Choose your trajectory with J-M Saive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEKHWGFrAjg), Top 16 Table Tennis Brands [Official Website], Top 6 Best Table Tennis Handles [Advantage Comparison], Top 5 Best Table tennis Grips [Pros and Cons], Top 10 best Butterfly table tennis rubbers, Chinese rubbers have a lower throw than the Japanese and ESN rubbers. When i touch the hardness of his Hurricane 3 its a lot softer than my trash Hurricane H3. Using this rubber on my FH now. Beide im Paket gebe ich für 26 Euro inkl. the 'feel' at the moment of impact) of imparting more spin, but based both on the accuracy of placement and the difficulty that opponents seem to have blocking, I'm pretty confident that G-1 actually imparts more spin (even though it doesn't feel like it). Because the sponge is too dense, too hard. Tenergy 05 though is more dangerous in the first, opening topspins. With this piece of rubber, you will learn how to make a great arc with your forehand topspin. Maybe I would add that G1 has a bit more control. So max thickness recommended. It is probably better to just buy provincial version though. I am a beginner, and was wondering if yakasaka mark 5 (black) max thickness is any good for forehand? The hardness is quite similar to MXP. Slow looping (Brush) – 8.5/10: Slow looping is good you can play really slow precise loops and really load up the spin without having to swing hard, iv mentioned it a lot but the topsheet really does bite the ball well. Here's our latest full and comprehensive review of the new Vega X rubber by XIOM! You want to finish the point as soon as possible, one slow loop and the next forehand is like smash, loop kill. Postversand ist inklusive. Every ball went over the table, maybe it´s my style of looping, but I didn´t like at all. Black 2.0 Provincial rubber Battle 2 with a blue sponge is made of a hard Chinese sponge and a sticky top-sheet that has been specially treated. Hopefully Funk Fu Master's evaluation is accurate. These rubbers give what you put in (very linear), so both speed and spin potential are brought out by the player. -G1 is harder than Rakza 7, Check the uncut rubber weights here If you don’t want to buy fake Hurricane 3 rubbers, I have found another good alternative. Versand ab. Vega pro more linear rubber. On my mj szlc, G-1 2.0 on both sides means 190gr balanced and controlled. You can also cross-check the serial number on the DHS website. Select color/thickness: However, it’s not as fast as Calibra LT+. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So here is my recommendation, based on my coaching experiences and testing many combos of players. Here is the list of best forehand rubbers of all times: 01. Good, I'm glad we could clear up the confusion. Much harder to bh loop backspin with g1. Fortunately, it breaks in quickly though not as quickly as alhelg. But the speed is higher, a lot of spins like MX-P. Many pro players (non-Chinese) use Tenergy 05 Hard rubber on their forehand side. In the grand scheme of things though, its still a grippy rubber, you can still load it up at extreme angles, but you can have slippages occasionally. It's more powerful than my old mj with blitz x2 which was one of the best combos I ever played but in the short game it's more controllable while offering more penetration power on harder shots, more spin for the same input, it's just better. MX-P50 (check price) is the new version of Evolution MX-P for the Plastic ball. The topsheet is more elastic making it more suitable for flicks. Topsheet is softer than Hurricane 3 on top of a hard and lively sponge. Great review. Every player who plays Chinese rubbers on the forehand side boosts their rubbers. Would top top players use this? Why? Because the rubber corrected me. Here are some reviews: This is not the same as what the national team uses. G-1 means "Grip First" and S-1 means "Speed First" Choose Fastarc G-1 for more spin with great power, and choose Fastarc S-1 for more speed with great spin.Speed: 95Spin: 96Control: 68Hardness: Medium-Hard. Victas V>15 Extra is considered another good alternative for Tenergy 05. Which is the best forehand rubbers in table tennis? You can have a very fast killing forehand shot, but more unforced error. Used by all of the top Chinese players, both Senior and Junior players. The throw angle on loops is medium high to high, providing plenty of clearance over the net. It’s impossible to play without using a tuner/booster. It suits well the fast attack forehand style. Some Hong Kong players also use Hurricane 3 on their forehand rubbers. So impressed. Amazing rubber, its a completely different rubber.->Commercial version is as dead as hell->Provincial version is where it actually starts playing as it says on the package.->National is where it is perfection, it plays like a beast, u can rip out topspin that is just beautiful. For a long time Xiom Vega Pro could have been considered the best alternative to Butterfly Tenergy 05. from the look, feel, and daily playing experience, it seems pretty durable as well !! Tenergy 05 Hard04. Excellent rubber. S1 is very light weighted and suits RPB BH. I have explained in a previous post, how to choose a forehand rubber. This forehand style can be also called “European forehand style” (in the eye of a western coach). It is bouncy when you play the ball on the raket, its not tacky at all maybe little i think. In the US you can pick it up for as little as $32.60!!! Compared to Tibhar MXP (2.1 mm), Nittaku G1 (2.1 mm) has similar spin, but much less speed. It’s due to the effect of the booster, the real Chinese rubber is not hard dead. Custom made 10.5mm thickness One Ply Hinoki Shakehand, Rubber Sheet Mass and Size Database - Reviews, articles and Guide on Table Tennis - Table Tennis Reviews (tabletennis-reviews.com), Nittaku Fastarc C-1 or Nittaku Fastarc S-1, Top-spin (Along with Ability to lift back-spin), Top-spin (Along with Ability to lift back-spin) = ( same-same ), Blocking ( G1 feels better offensively, Rakza more sedate ). It’s not as spinny as other ESN rubbers (Stiga Mantra H, MX-P, Rhyzm, etc.) They say he’s an ex pro maybe only here in spain I guess. One of the best forehand rubber with a medium throw angle like Rasant. Also, I feel that is not that linear. First of all, all DHS “national” rubbers in the market ain’t the real thing, they are just copies or imitations of the nationals pros use, because, nationals are exclusive for CHN national players ONLY. Manufacturer's Description The NITTAKU Fastarc G-1 rubber is "Fast" with an "Arc"! Im glad to say its still going strong today and is still a very popular rubber not only for its relatively cheap price compared to most other offers but also its label as being one of the best alternatives for Tenergy. All items are in stock unless otherwise stated. I'm not sure I understand your post. Played them on Limba and Hinoki woods. Also if anyone could give a direct comparison between the Xiom Vega Pro/Europe/df vs Stiga Mantra M/S (I would imagine very similar though)
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