Andres Gimenez became the Guardians' everyday shortstop in 2022, and the 24-year-old is locked into that role for the foreseeable future thanks to his defense and ability to get on base. He is a pure contact hitter who gets on base and isn't afraid to run (19-for-24 in SB attempts). In the offseason, the Texas Rangers handed the 34-year-old a five-year, $185 million contract to anchor their staff. The shortstop position feels deeper than in years past, but heading into his age-29 season, Seager remains at or near the top. Pablo Lopez started 32 games for the hapless Marlins in 2022 and threw 180 innings with 174 strikeouts, a 3.75 ERA, and a 1.17 WHIP. Who should be the No. Draft him with confidence. The Home Field Sports fantasy baseball rankings series continues with second basemen and shortstops, which are normally tough positions to navigate with not many reliable hitting threats. 11 East Carolina (American Athletic Conference), No. There is a real chance that Patrick Corbinthe same guy who went 6-19 with a 6.31 ERA in 152.2 innings last seasonis going to be the Opening Day starter for the . If your league is deep enough to stream a 1B based on home/away location, then Cron is a perfectly fine option. Pittsburgh may not win many games, but Bednar is clearly the closer and should be dominant in any uniform. Webb utilized his slider and changeup more last season, which helped to protect his ERA and WHIP. While this is due to correct, it shouldn't scare you off from making him a top reliever on your squad. He will strike out and doesn't take as many walks as he should, but the lineup around him provides plenty of protection and a fantastic ceiling for counting stats. Sounds great for a 27-year-old who could be a fantasy anchor for your pitching staff, right? The Coors effect isn't going to bring the 31-year-old back near his prime, but he should put up better numbers in 2023 and recently stated he would be ready to go for Spring Training. His slash line was an other-worldly .311/.425/.686 with an xwOBA of .463 and wRC+ of 207. He struck out 210 batters with a regular-season ERA of 1.75 and a microscopic WHIP of 0.83.
2023 fantasy baseball rankings: Shohei Ohtani, Fernando Tatis and more Unless you're in a quirky league where defense counts, Melendez fills a scarce position with decent skills. When he is healthy, Franco offers all the potential in the world, and if he can get 600 plate appearances in 2023, he could be a league winner with his current ADP of 92. The good is that he hits the cover off the ball when he does make contact, sitting in the 97th percentile of HardHit%. While he does not have any outward signs of decline, some fantasy managers might be wary of investing a high-round pick in a guy who turns 39 in July.
2023 NCAA Division I baseball rankings - Wikipedia If we look at his three-year trends from the last three full seasons he played, the 25-year-old projects to be in the 20/15 range for HR and SB. There is a lot to love about O'Neill in fantasy formats, but there is a lot to question as well. Lynn is a prime candidate to climb draft boards if he shows out during Spring Training given his history as a workhorse. He remained in the 90th percentile or higher in xBA, K%, fastball velocity, extension, xERA, and Whiff%. The stolen bases are most likely gone forever, but he could pair nicely with a speed guy from Round 1. Some fatigue appeared to set in following the All-Star Break, but overall, his numbers remained elite, with an xFIP of 2.85, a K/9 of 10.83, and a WHIP of 0.97. One of the 2023 Fantasy baseball breakouts the model is jumping on: Yankees shortstop Oswald Peraza. He is exactly the type of guy you wait for once you've built up your other categories. With no clear-cut SP1 in fantasy this season, Burnes is a solid choice, as he will buoy your pitching categories while pitching in front of a Top 10 defensive team. Well Underneath that sparkling 2.20 ERA was an xFIP of 3.50 and an extremely low BABIP of .260. Even accounting for some increase in ERA, his xFIP last year was 3.30, so the underlying metrics don't suggest extreme regression. His .363 BABIP is due to regress so draft him with the knowledge that his batting average may drop 15-20 points. The 30-year-old slashed .267/.316/.491 with 25 HR, 77 RBI, and 71 runs scored. His K% jumped precipitously (16.8 to 24.3), while his walk rate went the other direction (13.1 to 10.7). He isn't going to do anything flashy (8.27 K/9), but he shouldn't do much to harm your numbers.
Class of 2023 HS Baseball Player National Rankings - Perfect Game The Blue Jays heeded his offensive prowess by using him as DH on many days when he wasn't behind the plate. Felix Bautista is a hard-throwing righty who arrived in Baltimore and immediately became a high-impact reliever. Trea Turner cashed in on his elite speed/power combination and signed an 11-year, $300 million contract to join the reigning National League Champion Philadelphia Phillies. Montgomery is never going to strike out a ton of batters, but he maintains good ratios and has started 30+ games in the last two years. We're still a ways away from the first pitch of 2023 Opening Day, but it's never too early to get a head start on your fantasy baseball research. Make sure your ratios are protected before drafting him for saves.
Fantasy baseball player rankings 2023: Every position's top prospects Adley Rutschman saw three minor league levels before making his MLB debut on May 21 and subsequently played 113 games for Baltimore. In 2022, Max Fried demonstrated that pristine control and location can still be effective in today's Triple-Digit SP Society. After three years of single-digit steals, Altuve stole 18 bags while only being caught once in 2022. He played in 32 games, hitting four homers and stealing two bases while slashing .260/.330/.500 in the small sample size. The Oregon State Beavers' blistering start to the 2023 college baseball season has been recognized by national voters. He doesn't take a ton of walks but doesn't strike out much, either. 2 JSerra Catholic. Two years into his St. Louis tenure, the 31-year-old has put to rest most fantasy manager fears about the lack of the Coors effect. As Mookie Betts enters his age-30 season, there is some expected decline in a few areas (fly ball rate increased but led to a lower ground ball EV/BABIP). He ended the first half with 14 HR, five SB (out of 10 attempts), and a slash line of .259/.301/.430. Ranking in the 90th percentile in K%, BB%, and xwOBA is all you need to know to feel confident in grabbing the 33-year-old in the second round. Unfortunately, he also offers 3.4 BB/9 as he sometimes isn't sure where his 100-mph throws will end up. The good . Once again, Jacob deGrom is the pitcher on the board with the wildest range of outcomes possible. 2023 600 PA / 200 IP Projections . He stands at 6-foot, 190 pounds with premium athleticism on the mound. He continues to have an elite curve ball to match his 95-mph fastball and plays for the high-scoring Atlanta Braves. 2023 Round Rock Baseball Classic: Schedule, how to watch LSU, Iowa, K-State, Sam Houston . Framber Valdez became Mr. Quality Start in 2022, tossing 201 1/3 innings in 31 starts for the World Champions. In traditional 5x5 leagues, he can anchor any fantasy outfield you put him in.
SportStars' 2023 Preseason NorCal Baseball Rankings He played in 84 games last season, slashing .295/.358/.500 with 16 HR, 54 RBI, and 40 runs. The two knocks on Machado are that his K% was a career-high of 20.7, and he's not getting faster as he ages, but fantasy managers aren't drafting him for his speed. Josh Hader may come at a discount in 2023 due to those who fixate on a stretch of outings in August 2022 or look only at his final ERA. Alex Bregman started 2022 off slowly, but his bat came alive in the second half of the season. In 2022, Rodon threw a career-high 178 innings, struck out 237 batters, and ended with a sparkling ERA of 2.88 and WHIP of 1.03. His K% was much higher (18.7) than at lower levels, but this should normalize as he becomes more comfortable. 2023 FYPD Rankings for Dynasty Baseball Chris Clegg's Top-125 FYPD Rankings Chris Clegg Jan 10 4 1 Hopefully, you checked out my FYPD Primer yesterday to show you how to navigate your draft and the traits and tendencies to look for in these players. Kwan is in the 100th percentile of K% after striking out only 60 times in 638 plate appearances. If he indeed gets to bat in front of the likes of Paul Goldschmidt and Nolan Arenado, he will be worth a higher pick and should benefit from the new SB rules. Guys like Edwin Diaz, Emmanuel Clase, Josh Hader and Ryan Pressly are just some of the elite closers who still maintain a stranglehold on their teams' ninth-inning role. His 2022 numbers, however, rewarded whoever took him two rounds too late, finishing 16-8 with a 3.10 ERA and 0.95 WHIP and 197 strikeouts in 194 2/3 innings. Logan Webb flashed his strikeout upside in 2021, leading to fantasy managers overvaluing him in 2022. He turns 37 in August, but he could be a sneaky great pick on draft day. Fantasy managers should trust that he will get first crack at saving games, but they should also be aware that the 37-year-old benefited from a career-low .221 BABIP. His xERA was 3.57 but his xFIP was 4.35. Updated fantasy baseball rankings for points leagues and H2H points scoring as of March 1, 2023. Jake McCarthy is a vessel for stolen bases in the later rounds of drafts. The 30-year-old has always had good on-base skills and 20-HR power, and his RBI total should hover in the 60-70 range. Rafael Devers is one of the best players in baseball who seems consistently overlooked in fantasy circles. Nola is in the last year of his contract with the Phillies, so he will have plenty of motivation to demonstrate his ability to serve as the ace of any staff. Draft him and enjoy. The 31-year-old smacked 22 home runs and stole 21 bases while slashing .276/.342/.478 for the National League Champions. 18 Southern Miss (Sun Belt), all of whom hosted regionals last year, with the Pirates and Golden Eagles each advancing to supers. Logan Gilbert flashed the goods in 2021 and returned for a great year in 2022. Just make sure to draft a durable second option later. He missed time in the middle of the season with a finger injury he incurred while stealing a base, or he would have probably joined the 30/30 Club. Even with the big contract, Swanson has proven that his durability is consistent, and he should bat at the top of the order, both of which make him a valuable fantasy asset. The Brewers took the training wheels off for Corbin Burnes in 2022, allowing him to throw 202 innings after only 167 the year before. He made his MLB debut last season, recording 15 hits and scoring eight runs in 49 at-bats.. He hit 16 homers, his most since 2019, but he only stole 18 bases, a severe drop off from the 47 he snagged the year before. The draft discount would have to be huge to take a flier on him, and chances are good that one of your much more hopeful league mates will take him before he reaches that point. If Jon Gray had stayed healthy in 2022, he would be going much higher in drafts this year. You don't currently have any notifications, Copyright 2010- FantasyPros.com He used a four-pitch arsenal to get 33 saves with a 2.98 ERA and 0.89 WHIP. He's a Tier 3 closer with a higher upside if he lands the job.
2023 Fantasy Baseball Rankings & Tiered Ranks | Fantasy News - RotoBaller The managers who. Even with his torn UCL last season, he still slashed .286/.364/.514 and powered the Phillies to the World Series. Chisholm should enter his age-25 season healthy, though he will probably lose SS eligibility in most formats. Ozzie Albies played in only 64 games in 2022, losing time to a broken foot and then a broken pinkie finger. While waiting for him to possibly return, he fell off a bike and fractured his wrist, which had to be surgically repaired in the offseason. But it is best to exercise some caution and ensure you have outfield depth if you plan to roster him. Dansby Swanson will enter his age-29 season with a freshly signed 7-year, $177 million with the Chicago Cubs. Projections for the 28-year-old look similar to this stat line, though he will have a boosted lineup ahead of him to knock in with the re-signing of Brandon Nimmo, return of Francisco Lindor, and anyone else Steve Cohen decides to add to his luxury tax mountain. After he signed a six-year, $75 million contract, the Braves should allow him to throw more innings, probably in the 150-160 range, and he should still have RP eligibility, making him a points-league stud as well. M.J. Melendez debuted and appeared in 129 games in 2022, showing off his patience and power to the tune of 18 HR and a 12.4% BB rate. Let them.
MLB Power Rankings 2023: Are Astros, Yankees or Mets on top? He famously broke the A.L. Just make sure you're not paying for his MVP iteration on draft day. The 29-year-old scored 101 runs and tallied 100 RBI, often batting behind Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman in L.A. Fantasy managers shouldn't expect a repeat RBI performance, given that he is almost assuredly going to bat leadoff in Philly, but repeating a 20 HR/100 R season is likely as Citizens Bank plays well to right-handed power. He had been the target of many trade rumors at the deadline but stayed put.
2023 Fantasy Baseball Rankings: Top 100 outfielders His Statcast page is a thing of beauty, and his K% projection is around 37. The surface stats are much uglier than fantasy managers have been used to seeing. From August til the end of the season, however, he carried a 2.43 ERA and returned to his low-walk, low-HR self. All said, Turner isn't a unanimous choice for the No. On top of all of that, he is in his walk year and will be auditioning for what will surely be a huge contract. Of note, he increased his stolen bases, and this trend could continue in 2023 with the new baserunning rules. 02/06/2022 World champions Argentina new world No. Rankings Menu for 2023 Class National Player Rankings By Grad Year select Clear filters *Disclaimer: PG cannot 100% guarantee the accuracy of the verbal college commitments listed below. Instead, his K/9 reverted back to his earlier 7.63 range versus the 9.59 K/9 outlier. In dynasty leagues, he is already taken; for those in redraft, he is worth a high pick. Whether he was lost in the Aaron Judge hoopla or continues to squander an incredible career on a terrible team (hint: it's the latter), Trout went about his business as he always has. If someone could guarantee his health, an argument could be made to take him in the first round.
2023 Fantasy Baseball Rankings: Top 50 relief pitchers The fact that Dave Roberts might deploy him enough at 2B to give him that eligibility is just icing. The 26-year-old definitely has a place on fantasy rosters and can probably be picked up somewhere in the 13th round. The 25-year-old is not making it out of the second round in NFBC drafts, so chances are good his draft stock isn't going anywhere this season. Down the stretch in 2022, he showed improvement with a 45:8 K:BB ratio in August and September. For most of 2022, Nolan Arenado was in the NL MVP conversation while batting directly behind the guy who eventually won it, Paul Goldschmidt. Ramirez did have UCL repair in November, but there is no doubt he will be ready to go for Spring Training. Fantasy managers just need to decide if they can ride out the 0-for-4 streaks. The case for Turner is an easy one; he hasn't hit under .290 since 2018 and his OPS has been over .800 for five straight seasons. Cole will typically pitch into the sixth inning, meaning he qualifies for wins and quality starts more often than not, and the Yankees should win an abundance of games in 2023. However, he still offers clear 20-20 potential at the shallower 2B position with the hope he will continue where he left off in 2022. In his age-29 season, he played 155 games, led the NL in home runs with 46, scored 100 runs, drove in 94, and stole 10 bases.
Fantasy Baseball Rankings 2023: Best sleepers, breakouts, busts by When he returned, it looked like all of the skills that made him so highly sought after had disappeared. He is an appealing SP4 for fantasy staffs. With only 153 MLB games under his belt, he has yet to show all he is capable of, and it is worth it to chase his upside. Fantasy players need to note two important things: (1) The change from pitcher-friendly Oracle Park to hitter-friendly Yankee Stadium will have some elevated effect to his ERA; and (2) Beware of drafting an oft-injured pitcher coming off a career year. What it will not make a difference in, however, is his incredible talent on the field. Alexis Diaz is already named the official closer for the Reds, which isn't a testament to his RP prowess, considering Cinci is going nowhere fast.
2023 Draft Prospects | THE BOARD | FanGraphs Steamer projections have him hitting another 40 and maybe crossing the century mark on runs and RBI if anyone aside from Shohei Ohtani shows up to play in L.A. He won't come with quite as big of a discount in 2023, but in the tenth round, he is a great SP3. If someone could guarantee that 2021 Tatis is who we're getting, he'd be a Top 5 pick, but the variables are numerous, and the impact is unknown. The 31-year-old hits the ball hard, in the 90th percentile in HardHit% and maxEV, and his BB% is a stellar 13.1%. Position eligibility is determined based upon a minimum of 20 games, otherwise the position the player appeared at most . The positives are his solid floor, and a good surrounding lineup will keep the numbers afloat. Buxton played in only 92 games last year, 61 in 2021, 87 in 2019, and 28 in 2018. The 24-year-old responded by slashing .329/.370/.521 with 10 HR and eight SB (out of 10 attempts).
2023 Fantasy Baseball: Top 150 rankings for Dynasty leagues, as He then incurred a lat injury that cost him a 60-day IL stint and limited his start count to 19. Rule Changes Probable Pitchers Starting Lineups . Ronald Acuna Jr. appeared in 119 games last year, a significantly higher number than the original projection of a July return from his torn ACL injury. As a reward for that performance, he signed a two-year contract with the Mets so he and Max Scherzer can arm wrestle for who gets to call themselves the staff's ace. His K/9 rate dipped to 8.24, but his BB/9 improved from 3.22 to 2.33. He would make for a good SP2 on regular 5x5 fantasy teams. Christian Walker was ridiculously underrated/ignored in 2022 given the fantasy production he was putting out. His homers fell from 31 to 27 as a result, but he increased his runs and RBI by 11 each, and he stole 25 bases to boot. The 30-year-old pitched 150 innings after beginning the season on the shelf, and his numbers were markedly improved from his 2021 campaign. Willson Contreras signed a 5-year, $87.5 million deal with the Cardinals and will presumably bat in an advantageous position in their lineup. The injuries have been addressed: He surgically repaired his torn labrum shortly after his suspension for a nagging shoulder issue that plagued him, and he had surgery on his left wrist in October. He collected 14 holds before the Orioles traded Jorge Lopez at the deadline, after which he notched 15 saves. He collected 37 saves, while pitching 57 2/3 innings and striking out 85 batters. While the fifth-year player probably isn't going to gift fantasy managers with double-digit steals, Guerrero can keep four categories and all ratios afloat, allowing you to build around that foundation. Barlow will still get his fair share of save opportunities, but this smells like a closer by committee to start the season. This wasn't really in question before his arrival in the big leagues last summer, but he slashed .295/.383/.450 in 72 games for the Royals when he finally got the call-up. The 13 wins were nice, and his underlying metrics remain stellar, but he comes with a little more risk than previously. He does not overpower hitters, but they struggle to make good contact against his three-pitch mix. When healthy, he was productive atop the Toronto lineup, smacking 25 HR, scoring 89 runs, driving in 76, and even stole 14 bases for good measure. In 2022, everyone in fantasy baseball circles knew Marcus Semien would experience some serious regression in Texas after his career year in Toronto. Washington Nationals. Don't get blinded by his 1.84 ERA from last year, either. Fantasy managers shouldn't worry any more than they typically do about his injury risk. Reynolds hit 27 HR and slashed .262/.345/.461 and yet scored 74 runs and knocked in only 62. He may have just brought his Statcast page to contract negotiations before signing his five-year, $102 million deal to return to New York. The difference lay entirely in his BABIP, which did its expected jump from an impossible .274 to an outrageous .363. What Gonzalez weirdly does well is make contact, as his K% is 20, and he deploys this skill in the enviable position of batting directly behind Jose Ramirez.
2023 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Preseason Top 25 - D3baseball The 33-year-old still has a K% in the 92nd percentile in the league, though this did drop from 37.7% to 31.7% last year. The 13.3% HR/FB ratio should correct, and if he maintains an improved K% and HardHit%, he will be an absolute steal at his current ADP. Gleyber Torres hit 24 HR in 2022, 15 more than he managed in 2021 while using an increased launch angle and a 10.7% barrel rate. He will always strike out a high percentage of batters (32% last season), but his health is a question mark so expect him to miss some time if you draft him. If you have the IL spots, his current ADP of around 130 makes sense. However, beware the innings limit that is sure to come. His xERA was 3.51, but his xFIP was 2.98, which is encouraging for 2023. As a fantasy player, Devers has all of the skills managers would ask for in a third baseman. Harrison learns quickly in Cactus League debut. In 185 innings pitched, he struck out 170 batters while walking only 32. His xwOBA and xSLG are both near the 90th percentile, and he hit particularly well at Camden Yards in spite of the extended left field fence. College Recruiting Rankings. Liam Hendriks quietly had a very solid year for a disappointing White Sox team. However, his BB% also stands out for being in the 2nd percentile. Be prepared for a letdown if you reach too high for him. Marcus Semien and Jose Altuve.
ZiPS 2023 Top 100 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball 2023 Fantasy Baseball Rankings powered by FantasyPros Aaron Nola (PHI) Aaron Nola had a wildly unlucky 2021 that most fantasy managers were aware of on draft day in 2022. With a current ADP of 93, the 25-year-old should produce good value for fantasy managers who focus on position scarcity in the early rounds. He struck out 194 batters in 148 2/3 innings and held a 2.54 ERA and 0.95 WHIP. He contributed across all batting categories, slugging 28 HR with 75 RBI, 84 runs, and 25 stolen bases. A finger injury derailed his season, but he finished the year strong. These metrics should give you pause as you face the decision to draft him in the 2nd/3rd round of your draft. His BABIP was an unsustainable .362, and his barrel%, exit velocity, sweet spot%, and walk rate all declined from 2021. The other news is that his fastball velocity and K% decreased while his BB% increased.
2023 fantasy baseball positional rankings: 1st, 3rd base | Sports He started 32 games, throwing 189 innings and striking out 212 batters. Kevin Askeland Feb 21, 2023 MaxPreps Top 25 baseball rankings Eleven ranked teams begin seasons this week, including No. In a SV+HD league, Munoz would be considered a stud, and he still has plenty of value in 5x5s. 31/12/2022 WBSC Baseball World Rankings: Japan remains as world No 1 men's baseball programme. The Orioles become the 19th different team to lead our talent rankings.
2023 FYPD Rankings for Dynasty Baseball - by Chris Clegg He should enter 2023 as the clear-cut closer in St. Louis, and if he continues to throw in the triple digits as often as he did last year, he can shore up your saves category while helping your ratios and strikeouts. MLB Power Rankings 2023: Are Astros, Yankees or Mets on top? Those are the negatives. Milwaukee is a pitching-heavy team that will offer plenty of save opportunities.
2023 Pre-Season College Baseball Rankings - Collegiate Baseball Newspaper Aptos 5 Baseball Rankings 1 Bellarmine 17 Bishop O'Dowd 31 Cardinal Newman 27 Clayton Valley 47 College Park 17 De La Salle 125 Del Campo 5 Foothill 10 Franklin-Elk Grove 10 Granada 25 Mitty 38 NorCal Top 20 24 Palo Alto 9 Redwood 15 St. Francis-Mountain View 44 Tamalpais 4 Valley Christian 23 Whitney 20 Wilcox 10 Woodcreek 9 Defending NorCal Div. Fantasy managers can draft him with confidence. The list of third basemen capable of that feat stands at one unless Bobby Witt has 3B eligibility in your league. It's just every other part of the picture that muddies the water. He hits the ball with great power, ranking in the 92nd percentile in maxEV. Arizona is on the upswing, but the Diamondbacks are often forgotten about on draft day. March 2, 2023. Sure, he doesn't run anymore, but if you need to shore up your runs and RBI category, you can't really beat the guy in the on deck circle after Jose Altuve, Jeremy Pena, and Yordan Alvarez get on base. He had identical WHIPs of 1.08 and has started more than 30 games in four of the past five seasons (excluding 2020). He has never played fewer than 125 games in a full season, including the six years before the arrival of the NL DH, where he got some extra at-bats on days off. The 27-year-old slashed .302/.358/.492 with 27 HR, 76 RBI, and 74 runs scored in 157 games. Arkansas 10. Julio Urias ended the 2022 season with a shiny 2.16 ERA, but this belies some concerning underlying numbers that pushed his xFIP to 3.81. While his chances of repeating 40+ saves are low, he enters the season as THE guy in Boston and should be one of the Top 10 closers off the board. He still struck out 198 batters in 200 innings, but his true value was in his 2.88 ERA and 1.04 WHIP. Will Smith is the catcher you draft when you want productivity from the position but don't want to pay J.T. His strikeout rate crept above 30% for the first time since his rookie year. 1 pick this draft season? If you can stomach the idea of spending a high-round draft pick on an injury risk with a high ceiling, Robert could be a steal. That second-half stat line was much closer to his career average, and he still bats in a high-octane lineup that should drive his counting stats back to the 25/15 range without harming your ratios. At age 25, Kirby can serve as a great SP3/SP4 for fantasy managers with hope that he will climb the ranks going forward. If you ask a fantasy analyst who the Twins' closer will be this season, the most common answer will be, "Well, we know who it SHOULD be." 2023 College Baseball Top 25 and with Total Votes, Team Records and Previous Week's Team Rankings He will come with a senior citizen discount in drafts, but that could be a heck of a steal if he somehow comes close to a repeat performance. Yes, they moved the fences back at Camden Yards, but he actually improved his EV and added length to his average fly ball distance. Dylan Questad RHP / Waterford, WI / 2023 Ranked inside the top 150 nationally, RHP Dylan Questad (Waterford Union; uncommitted) takes over the top spot with an impressive jump to his offerings. Jose Altuve's fantasy baseball demise has been prematurely predicted for a couple of years now. All of this adds up to that Goldy is due for some regression in 2023, which could be dramatic. Even with the walks, Doval is a Tier 2 closer you can get in the seventh or eighth round. Therein lies the problem, of course.